Jais: Muslims CANNOT work in stores selling beer

They will be educated in Syariah laws related to liquor beverages
Wednesday, August 19th, 2009 05:35:00

WHILE the Selangor Pakatan coalition with differing views and ideologies has come to a seemingly sober  solution on what it terms as a "principled position" on the sale of beer in Muslim majority areas in the State, the Selangor Islamic Religious Council (Jais) has been unwavering from the start.

Jais will continue to haul up Muslims who work in establishments and stores selling liquor beverages. "We will continue to talk to Muslims who are working in these areas even if they are not directly handling alcoholic
beverages," said Mohd Hidayat Abd Rani, special assistant to Jais director Datuk Mohamed Khusrin Nunawi,
who is away attending a seminar.

"If we take action and haul them to court, people will call us cruel, so we want to educate them. We know  any
Muslims working in these places are ignorant of syariah laws, so we want to educate them first that it is not  right under the syariah laws to even work in such places," he said.

Under Section 19 (1) of the Syariah Criminal Offences (State of Selangor) Enactment 1995, it is an offence for
anyone to consume alcohol and Section 19 (2) states that it is an offence for anyone to make, sell, offer or exhibit for sale intoxicating drinks.

"The law is very clear... you cannot be working in any place that sells, offers or exhibits the sale of beer or
intoxicants," he said, adding that Jais would first concentrate on Muslim majority areas to educate those working in these places.

"It is up to them to decide after that. But I believe most Muslims will not want to work in such places if they have alternative employment."

Following a spat between two councillors over the sale of beer in Selangor, Pakatan leaders met and struck a compromise enabling outlets in Selangor to continue selling alcohol related beverages but outlawing the sales to minors and Muslims.

The move is in line with the State government's decision that convenience stores should practice self- regulation in the sale of alcoholic beverages, instead of banning its sale in Muslim majority areas.

"In line with the ruling, we will be calling owners, operators or store managers to come to the Jais office to be educated on how to carry on their business in Muslim majority areas," Hidayat said.

Asked to elaborate, he said they would be told to put up signs forbidding Muslims from buying alcoholic drinks.

On the fate of eight Muslim workers detained at the Bar Celona Restaurant, Bar and Club Lounge at Sunway
Pyramid selling alcoholic beverages last month, he said they were on court bail and were yet to be charged.

"We are investigating the case and have not decided whether to charge them or not," said Hidayat, adding
that the two Muslim workers from a 7-Eleven store in Section 8, Shah Alam, who were issued notices to come to the Jais office were enlightened on not selling or handling alcoholic beverages.

Flashback

No stock at Shah Alam 7-Eleven

7 eleven

NO MORE: This 7-Eleven store in Section 8, Shah Alam, no longer stocks beer

BEER is missing from the shelves of 7-Eleven convenient stores in Muslim majority areas in Shah Alam.

A survey by the Malay Mail yesterday found 7-Eleven stores in several areas in Shah Alam have stopped selling beer following the controversy over such sales in Muslim majority areas.

One of the stores, situated next to a mosque in Section 8, was raided by Jais officers recently for selling it and has taken beer off its shelves.

“We stopped selling beer recently,” said the store manager, who only wanted to be identified as Faizal.

Two employees of the store, a 22-year-old man and a 31-yearold woman were questioned by Jais on why they had handled beer and served with notices to appear at the Jais headquarters. They have since not reported for work.

“I don’t know where they are. Maybe they stopped work,” said Faizal.

Asked about the previous store manager who was also hauled up to explain why the two Muslim workers were required to handle alcoholic beverages, Faizal said he was transferred to another outlet.

Another 7-Eleven store in Section 6, situated on Jalan Cendrawasih and close to the UiTM campus, has also removed beer from its shelves.

The store manager, who did not want to give her name, said the store recently stopped selling beer and other alcoholic drinks.

Asked if she knew anything about the recent ruling regarding sale of beer in Selangor, she said she was only a worker and did not have the authority to decide what should be sold at the outlet.

Several patrons of the two 7-Eleven stores said they were not against the sale of beer or Muslims working in such areas but did not want Shah Alam to be turned into a “toddy shop”.

“They can buy and go home and drink for all I care, but it is offensive to see people buying and drinking in the vicinity, especially youths,” said taxi driver Johari.

A UiTM student in Section 6 said Muslims knew it was wrong to drink alcohol but was a bit surprised that they cannot be employed in places that sell alcohol.

“We are not an Islamic State like Iran or Pakistan. We are a Muslim country and people should be allowed to work where they want to,” said the 21-year old student, who only wanted to be identified as Salleh.

Comments

Why is this being an issue now and not before? I think that the state govt are just being a little bit ignorant on the fact that we are a muhibbah country and not some full-flesh islamic country. I am a muslim myself, but a job is a job and for a lot of people out there who does not have the qualification, its going to be hard right? When they came up with the idea on not banning but restricting the sales, it is good enough, however.. to restrict on applying for the job? its ridiculous.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
JAIS ....first think of ... how to stop them from drinking? ....your intesion are good (Maybe) but by you doing this it will effect people business and others .Are you willing to pay damages ? By closing down people business will this stop? ...they can go other place and buy what will you do close there as well? how many shop can you close?

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
If Muslims are not allowed to sell alcohol, then I would advice Jais to visit the bars and clubs around KL area. There is thousands of Muslims patrons are clubbing, drinking in the club? If they really want to punish the offenders, these people should be the 1st. Not the people working to earn a decent living. What about the Muslims bartenders in clubs, hotel staffs, stewards, stewardess? If these people do not have a job, it will only lead to robbery, mat rempit and more foreign workers has to be call in due to shortage of workers. Then, I do not think the authorities should complaint then.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
Time for me to get my supply from illegal sources. LOL Cheaper some more.

Submitted by Angel Tan on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
Ya... just shutdown all the brewing company la... these top brewing company submitted their tax to govmnt but the money is non-halal so just close it down la... c wat will happen to Malaysia business market... Again... its back to education, it the youth's parents educate their children properly, their children wont even touch the beer. Go back and teach ur children properly. JAIS instead of clamping down the stores and workers, why dont you all go catch those offenders whom drink beers??? Just like u catch ppl whom do khalwat... If JAIS do clamping down in this case, why dont they just close close down the hotels so that ppl wont do Khalwat in hotels??? Now JAIS make the company suffer business losses whom have legal license to sell beer and muslim worker lost their jobs. In US, both parties can sue JAIS in this case... BTW, beer is not under heavy alcoholic drinks so anyone can sell beer legally at anywhr!!!... 7-11 just bring it on to legal battle...

Submitted by I See Stupid People on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
Alcohols and beers are source of social ills. Make them illegal will save citizens from booozing all day & night, and will strengthening human values & increasing quality of life. People will not going to die without having beers and alcoholics beverages industry in Malaysia.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
halo JAIS, Kalau gini rupanya, matilah orang Islam, tak boleh. Orang Islam tak boleh kerja di MAS, AirAsia, Genting, semua hotel yang jual arak, semua pasaraya (semua jual bir), syarikat kewangan yang terlibat dengan bir dan judi. Kami nak kerja di mana pulak?

Submitted by Lawa on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
So, we need to have non-Muslims working in all the following places: MAS, All Hotels, any restaurants selling alcohol, Hypermarts, some coffee-shops, etc?? Poor, poor unemployed Muslims! This is no longer about whether the non-Muslims get their beer - how will 70% of the population of Malaysia be discriminated against in job-seeking because of this ruling? Come on! And the govt should not tax 'haram' money from all these outlets, Anchor, Carlsberg, Genting, Sports Toto, Lottery, all liquor-derived income at restaurants, airline, airport, etc? Good going JAIS, just do it - I believe the Muslims know not to drink the stuff; why go overboard and rob decent people of jobs?!

Submitted by CT on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
Would it be racist if I had a store selling alcoholic beverages and I advertised for workers who are ONLY Chinese, Indian or Dan lain lain? Do I need to specifically state NO muslims allowed to attend the interview? What about Giant, Carrefour, Tesco, Parkson, Jaya Jusco? They all sell alcoholic beverages, does it mean all muslims working there needs to resign? What about Hotels and Airlines? What about hand sanitisers? Its alcohol based..can muslims buy it and use or work in a place that sells it? If not, all pharmacies won't have muslims working there.. where will the muslims in Malaysia work then? JAIS should practice moderation when it comes to this sort of issues, sure, consumption is against the law but to deprive the livelihood of those trying to make ends meet?? This country is going down..such a pity.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
goood.. i support this...

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
There is nothing wrong with Alcohol. Islam does not forbid Alcohol. You can sell, play, use and even bathe in Alcohol if you want. Its when Alcohol is added to drinks and consumed that is the problem. Islam forbids being intoxicated. Just so happens that Alcohol when ingested, causes one to be intoxicated. Such drinks are forbidden, even a drop. However, to me, religion is optional. Its between me and god. And you are righ Anon, this ruling is crazy.. thousand of people in JUSCO, Giant, Carrefour and the rest are going to lose their jobs since they sell the beer there. Unless Jusco creates a seperate company, that sells beer and only rents the premise. This company would only employ non muslims. And true again, this is basis for discrimination.

Submitted by Hussin Yusof on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
ya... true.. how bout in Medical? isnt alcohol was use during surgery? then Muslim patients consume it, why dont JAIS go and catch them? Catch all the muslim medical staff for handling alcohols and muslim patient for consuming alcohols... Then shut down the whole Hospital... JAIS, u did the good job!!! Nothing better to do... sigh..

Submitted by I See Stupid People on Friday, August 21st, 2009.
Just create special counters mended by non muslims staff to sell alcoholic drinks and non halal food. Easy! The same applies on board of flights, there are muslim and non muslim stewards/stewardess. Those muslims working in beer factories, if there are, would you also work in factories that process pork and its products? Allah opens rezki to all in many ways, the halal and non halal ways. Its your choice.

Submitted by Anonymous on Friday, August 21st, 2009.
Just put one chinese or indian of non muslim guy to attend the counter for non halal one. If not enough, put two or three or five counters for this purpose if too many people buying beers at one time in tesco, and other supermarkets. The rest of the 50 counters put for the halal one and the muslim employee can attend them.

Submitted by Anonymous on Friday, August 21st, 2009.
Look like it is time for all the breweries to close shop.

Submitted by Hyprocrite on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
While respecting the liberties and restrictions imposed by religions, one must never forget the rights of minorities. Minorities in so called majority areas must be free to live within the liberties of their religions. We need to be careful... we want a united Malaysia where the freedom of everyone is protected.

Submitted by Dr. Edlic on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
JAIS, arrest Muslims working as bartenders as well. They are far more dangerous than those working in 7 Eleven.

Submitted by djzara on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
Bravo to all 7-11 convenient stores for observing the rights of the Muslims. Let's see more of this happening throughout the country. What's the situation like in Kelantan? Anyone..?

Submitted by NH Mustaffa on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
How about the rights of the followers of other religions. Should malls stop selling beef? Don't talk silly lah.

Submitted by Dr. Edlic on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
when they first opened 7-11 in Tanjung Chat, they did not sell beer/condoms. The still don't sell those. Go to chinese restaurant if you need to get beer.

Submitted by popo on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
I agreed with Salleh on this. EVeryone needs a job to support themselves. Most convenient shop employs young people to work in the store. To deny them a job just because 7-Eleven selling beers would be senseless. How about the Carlsberg factory in Shah Alam? I'm sure a lot of muslims work there. Is JAIS going there to "educate" the employees how to not handle beers? I'm sad that we still have narrow minded people in Malaysia, we're going forward to the future, not going back to the stone age!

Submitted by Eugene Williams on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
fine...shut down Carlsberg, Anchor, Tesco, Giant, Carrefour and all gambling related companies so that this measure is seen as consistent. Or ensure that these companies hire only non-muslims to work. Lets see what happens there on with regards to unemployment rates and FDI's.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, August 19th, 2009.
If that is the case, Muslims must not step their foot in countries that promotes beer as part of their culture. Prophet Muhammad gave the world a wonderful religion, but small minded Muslim clerics make life a hell for many Muslims (this exists also all the major world religions). It is only the people (rakyat) being discriminated. All they want is to earn. What is 'haram', and what is 'halal'?. I am a non-muslim, I don't drink and I don't smoke. I follow my religious ethics strictly. But, does that make a good human? I don't think so. I believe a good human is a result of long sacrifice rendered in service to mankind without least expecting anything in return. This is what religions aspire to achieve, but in the middle people get confused and throw rules and regulations as they like.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, August 20th, 2009.
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