MAILBOX: Are VIPs above the law?

Wednesday, October 7th, 2009 02:04:00

ON the subject of errant motorists, VIPs and VVIPs too are also among those at fault.

Last Sunday (Oct 4), at 5.25pm, I was on my way back from Tanjong Karang and was approaching the traffic lights from Puncak Alam and heading towards the Guthrie Espressway.

I was in a a long queue of vehicles stopped by two military policemen on high-powered motorbikes to give way to a white Toyota Alphard with the registration number 38, a black Mercedes and another car.

What puzzled me is what gives the military police any right to stop other traffic as their powers are meant to apply within the military camps only. Don’t the VIPs or VVIPs inside those vehicles which these military policemen are escorting know they too have to comply with the law? Were those in the cars mentioned even eligible to getting an escort in the first place?

Please ask VIPs to stop talking about why the public must follow rules if they themselves do not set good examples.

Azmee Hasim
Cheras

Comments

Mr Azmee Hashim, I think there's a guidebook for Malaysian VIP Dos and Don'ts. Could be a small note somewhere about exclusivity. Apparently being exclusive is a good example. From what I understand, military is above Civil law here in Malaysia. Perhaps that's why they could stop traffic. Errant or not, it happens. And, that's a fact. Think about it. IF you had a lot of money to spare or someone else is paying, buy a helicopter. You don't have to suffer loss of time. A helicopter can take you away from the traffic jam, saving you time. Now that defines "EXCLUSIVE" I think the queue cutting is rather distasteful. VIPs jumping queues are quite common, watch movies, usually those ladies who are dating some big shot gets a right to cut the queue entering a club. Probably that's why the VIPs here are taking on in that idea, but, since VIPs here don't really go clubbing, they get to do it on roads ;) Even mafias in the US can't run away from paying fines. They still pay, either they go bang bang or ka ching! What Mr Gucharan Singh has pointed out is true, it is possible for people to abide by the rules and own up to their law breaking habits. It just shows how matured and responsible people can be. Regardless if they're westerners or easterners, black, yellow, white, or brown. A lesson on How To Gain Respect. Out of the topic here, in my humble opinion, one reason the enforcement there is good, because the officers are given good treatment and good salaries. You pay for good quality. I feel that that's the reason why, service here is always bad. Shesh! This could go on forever! If we analyze back to the root of the problem, it'll probably take up MM's entire hosting space!

Submitted by CitrusFree on Wednesday, October 21st, 2009.
It is a stupid culture. A culture inherited from feudalism. God is great. Those who think they are big shots will one day face the Almighty.

Submitted by Dr. Edlic on Saturday, October 10th, 2009.
Why must you be jealous of other peoples good fortune.People like you do not deserve to be on the roads, no patience, unhappy with this and that. If Malaysia is not to your liking , why stay here. Go and live the rest of your life in Vietnam, Indonesia or hell. Ha ha ha.

Submitted by Anonymous on Friday, October 9th, 2009.
I got ticket for hard emengency break at the turnning point to KLIA just because of a VIP passing thru. A three lane road was block and the traffic police cant even spare one for a tax payer. What's Hong Kong people always said was right, We have the right and we are paying your salary...... Government. You are there because of us CITIZEN.

Submitted by Jim on Friday, October 9th, 2009.
That was my main reason of leaving the Armed Forces after 13 (SIR) years.

Submitted by Bigben on Friday, October 9th, 2009.
To question, is a sign of things to come in our society. So it's a good thing that such a question is posed, debated and argued. I think slowly, very slowly but surely our nation is trying become mature. Mature to a state where many would like. To compare Malaysia of now to the "west" of now, I cannot agree. The level of maturity in thinking is just different. The "west" had gone through the same period many many moons ago. To expect Malaysia to become like the "west" overnight is very unfair. If you tell me that in the "west" there's no corruption, bribery, kurang ajar people and all that was mentioned I have to disagree with that even more. Things like that happen everywhere. I can write so many examples if I want to. As for the VIP culture, it has to do with our history. "Colonial masters", sounds familiar? People back then had a certain respect for powers and many in that generation were brought up to respect power. Sir this and Sir that, cup of tea maybe.These were all brought down to our generation. Think carefully and you will find that it was not many generations ago when we respected powers and rightly so we still do, that's where all this VIPism came from. So to start to question it is a development. Only time and the nation itself will bring us to where we all hope we would be for we are such a young nation, it's only 50 years since we rejected "powers", the "west" have probably rejected "powers" since Frodo put on his magic ring. Also with such diverse culture, it will be a challenge but doable. Do not aspire to be the "west", learn from them, yes. It's easy to say how good a foreign country is when you focus on how bad Malaysia is. Brings me back to many conversation I had with my friends....."Why do you want to migrate to Australia, is Australia that good?...answer....o...Australia is so much better, Malaysia is so unsafe, snatch thieves, foreign thugs....Australia definately better". I always have a puzzle above my head after the answer. Also, most of my friends who migrated to the "west" respect the law more than the locals.... so much for respect.

Submitted by TheKites on Thursday, October 8th, 2009.
Come to think of it, that's why all those police or military uniforms are so much in demand. I would like to have one myself and might get away with m*rder or robber*y or anything for that matter.

Submitted by Anonymous on Thursday, October 8th, 2009.
Malaysia have since degenerated into Bolehland. Haven't you heard. Everything is boleh for VIPs.

Submitted by D'evil on Thursday, October 8th, 2009.
hmmm... 1 day when I'm in power like VIP/VVIP, I will definitely utilise my power to get above law... How wonderful living Malaysia, isnt it??? In Malaysia, anything can settle if u r VIP/VVIP... I will teach all the children in Malaysia, when they grow up, try to become VIP/VVIP then they can bully people and they can have a peaceful life... This is the way that Police and Military people taught us, we learn and we follow~~~ Follow example~~~ Note: Sarcasm allowed...

Submitted by I See Stupid People on Thursday, October 8th, 2009.
In Malaysia almost everybody tries to be a VIP. Dropping names, pulling strings, bribing cops, using family connections, Malaysians especially the KURANG AJAR datuks and civill servants who take salaries off the RAKYAT try it all.Landing at KLIA,is the start of the first page of such abuse of status in Malaysia Boleh land. The scenario described by the reader Azmee Hashim symbolizes a larger MALAYSIA BOLEH malaise -- the VIP culture. But is this culture unique to Malaysia?YES,it is. Does it exist elsewhere? NO,not really. The VIP culture seems to be a uniquely MALAYSIAN phenomenon. It is a fallout of the colonial mindset and almost feudal in intent, that continues to plague like a cancer in Malaysian mindset. In the West, things are totally different. Sweden, for instance, believes in sticking to the rules. One doesn't need to look for escape routes if one sticks to the rules. That doesn't mean traffic rules aren't broken. But the fines are so heavy, one would baulk at breaking them again. It could vary from Rs 1,200-28,000, you could lose your licence for two months or be put in jail. Is that too harsh? No, a well-functioning society needs them, but in Malaysia such applies only to the Rakyat as the VIPs break them galore. Sweden also rejoices in its complete absence of hierarchies. Everyone is treated the same, from CEO of a company to its cleaner, except, of course, the King. Name-dropping is considered extremely embarrassing. What about queues? Do Swedes think it fair for important people to jump queues? It would be in extremely poor taste to break them. Bribing cops? Don't even think about it. The VIP culture seems refreshingly absent from the UK too.I who have lived in the UK for nearly 38 years, appreciate the no-nonsense attitude of the English policeman. The VIP culture could not work here. If celebrities throw their weight around, the rule book will be thrown at them and the media called in. What about name-dropping? Just not done. Minor British royals don't have a police escort.But the most junior royal in Malaysia indulges as if his father built the roads, and not the rakyat and their taxes! As in Sweden, bribery means strict punishment. You will be jailed instantly. In the UK, the police is answerable only to the courts and can't be manipulated,Bribery is a wrod that does NOT exist in everyday use. A Japanese minister admits there have been instances of Japanese celebrities getting caught with drugs and politicians taking bribes, but the law is very strict. "I, too, have been caught speeding just 10km/hr over the prescribed limit and had to pay a fine of some $300. Did I try to reduce it? No, it would have backfired. Malaysia's VIP culture is also foreign to New Zealand and Australia, as it is limited to the entertainment industry and the law is generally the same for everyone. Two years ago, a driver in New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark's convoy was caught overspeeding, faced the legal process and was promptly served with regulatory notices. But it's a different story in MALAYSIA BOLEHLAND!!! Much of MALAYSIA BOLEHLAND is enormously prone to the VIP culture.Abroad, there is more respect for the individual. A policeman in the US will always refer to even a culprit driver as sir.BUT in Malaysia, if one does not SIR the lowly paid policeman..one can get into more trouble!!! Malaysian Government must learn to understand such VIP culture points to the unique problems that come with being unequal before the law. With no respect by the VIPs for the LAW of the Land,there can be no real dignified government and with no real government people will get away with crime. No one knows who is close to whom and whom to arrest, as the VIPs flash their status around!With such mentality concept such a 1 Malaysia means nothing, to the CITIZENS of the land.

Submitted by Gurcharan Singh, Kulim;London on Thursday, October 8th, 2009.
Sigh... this is the mentality of those who wear uniforms and carry guns. They think they are The Law and can order ordinary tax-paying citizens off the road. I too have seen police outriders behaving like gangsters, kicking car doors when the drivers were slow to move out of the way, shouting and shocking women drivers who sometimes swerve off the road in fright. Is it any wonder that the public's respect for police is so poor?

Submitted by Charles Chow on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.
I agree with Azmee Hasim comment on the title "Are VIP above the law?" I too have the same opinion especially a question whether military police have any rights to stop traffic and abuse their powers on public traffic users. Have encountered several occassion with them previoulsy and the last one was most annoying. I was at a traffic light and despite the light was green, I was not able to move upfornt as the road was congested and do not want to get stuck in the yellow box. Then suddenly I heard sirens from the back end of the car. Via my rear mirror, noticed two military policemen escorting a black Perdana. Within minutes, someone bang on my driver side window. This military policemen was shouting at me to drive ahead despite knowingly the light has turned red and I would get stuck in the yellow box. By doing so, i will blocked traffic on the other 2 end. I ignore him and he bang on the window again harder. I question his action and he rudely claimed he has the right to instruct me as he wishes. We almost end up in a fight. Luckly the light turn green and was able to drive on. I would have prolong the matter if my wife were not with me at that time. They should just stay and enforced whatever their authority they owned within the military camps only!

Submitted by Algie on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.
sadly, they are.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.
VVIP and VIP in Malaysia is always above the law. What is your problem? Don't be Kurang Ajar please. If you don't like it you can move to Indonesia.

Submitted by Anonymous on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.

this is so funny. I quote: "Ground rules for posting comments: 1. No personal attacks. 2. No vulgar or discriminatory language. 3. If you do not follow these rules, we will remove your comment.". Yet, this comment is still available. I guess Anonymous is also above the law. =D

Moderator's note: Sarcasm is allowed ;-)


Submitted by afook on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.
We still live in feudal system where the rich and powerful can do whatever they like. These people are actually bullies.

Submitted by azri on Wednesday, October 7th, 2009.
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