Teoh Beng Hock wasn't murdered, says pathologist

Govt doc disputes Dr Pornthip's testimony that Teoh was strangled
Friday, February 19th, 2010 12:45:00
Teoh Beng Hock

TEOH: Found dead on July 16 last year

Dr Pornthip

DEAD WRONG: Dr Pornthip's homicide theory shot down by government pathologist this morning

SHAH ALAM (Updated): Government pathologist Dr Shahidan Md Noor this morning disputed Thai forensic pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand's claims of homicide in Teoh Beng Hock's death.

At the High Court this morning, Dr Shahidan, from Sungai Buloh hospital, said his findings from the autopsy concluded that Teoh's death was caused by a fall from a high place with the injuries sustained consistent with the result of a fall.

He also disputed Dr Pornthip's testimony that the bruises on Teoh's neck was a result of strangulation as there was no evidence of asphyxiation or that his anal injury was a penetrative wound.

Dr Shahidan told the court that findings from external examinations of the deceased's body revealed injuries behind the tongue and inner throat. He said the bones at the buttock areas were also broken and further injuries revealed deformities on the deceased's hands, legs and feet due to breaks in the humerus, femur and fibia.

He said he agreed with findings from the first autopsy, which he added was "performed well".

The second autopsy by Dr Shahidan was performed on Nov 22 last year as per the instructions of the Deputy Public Prosecutor Mohd Abazafree Mohd Abbas on Nov 9.

The autopsy was conducted for two hours and supplemented with a report on the first autopsy, Dr Pornthip's testimony and photographs of the scene of the incident.

Dr Shahidan was also contacted by the Menteri Besar's office in Selangor and Teoh's family lawyer to conduct the autopsy but had declined.

The inquest was postponed to March 1, at which time Dr Shahidan would be cross-examined.

Dr Pornthip is a director of the Central Institute of Forensic Science of Thailand’s Justice Ministry. When she took the stand late last year, she claimed that there was an 80 per cent chance that Teoh’s death was due to homicide.

She is assisted by Dr Peter Venezis who became famous after investigating Princess Diana's death.

Both pathologists are scheduled to give their testimonies following Dr Shahidan's.

Teoh, 30, was found dead on July 16 last year at Plaza Masalam here, the morning after he was interviewed for 10 hours by the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC), whose office is on the 14th floor of the building.

The political secretary of Selangor exco member Ean Yong Hian Wah was reported to have been a witness in an MACC investigation into alleged irregularities in the disbursement of constituency development funds.


Comments

Being faithful and having a small child does not mean that a person would not experienced mental pressure. Being married and faithful does not mean that a person cannot committ adultery too. It's not only what caused the death but also what IS or the REASONS as for the death. If it is criminal - it could be anyone...perhaps trying to put a lid on some revealing matters? It could be ANYTHING for that matter ..that could either implicate either side too!!! Or maybe the pressure was just too much, especially when the reasons COULD be something that should not have came from someone that the deceased trusted? So...let the court reveal and find the truth. Sometimes, too much speculation may backfire. In these modern times, who you for so long trusted, could well be your enemy within!

Submitted by Anonymous on Monday, February 22nd, 2010.
There is no reason for Teoh to jump down... may be he was push down instead. Think about that.

Submitted by Road Warrior on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Dear Government pathologist Dr Shahidan Md Noor , Beng Hock was just a political aide, married with a faithful wife and a child coming soon. If you were him, do you jump down from a few floors of the government building?

Submitted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 20th, 2010.
Grow up bro! he is professional - dont put emotion in your work findings - only politician does

Submitted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Well, what we do not know for sure; even with the pathologists' ability and acquired paper qualifications are - did Teoh jump on his own free will or was he pushed? I don't think it is fair to assume that he was not murdered before jumnping thus he was not killed by a third party. What we all are certain of the fall killed Teoh. But did he jump down on his own for no valid reason? Only God knows.

Submitted by A human being on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Stop belittling other people credibility when you are not an expert in that field.

Submitted by mz on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
It is not a matter of belittling anybody's ability nor credibility, the CSI we indulge into to find out more from is only gluing some pieces of the jigsaw together. However, one piece can still be missing and thus that missing link is only known to God and the people involved at the scene before and during the incident, whether dead or alive. Anybody's theory can be right at present...

Submitted by A human being on Monday, February 22nd, 2010.
those who dont trust our local doctor's better seek treatment abroad! even some from our MP's with title DR!

Submitted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 20th, 2010.
You are very right. Check it out yourself the latest VVIP who has gone for treatment overseas. You are shooting your own two feet. Think before you comment. The thinking process is not in your brain.

Submitted by Yeo Chin Kiong on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Of all the experts to call in from abroad, why did the opposition called in the celebrity so called expert? Being famous does not guarantee that a person is good. Thailand has a higher crime and accident rate than any country in SEAsia.... even funeral handling companies have gunfights over dead bodies in accidents! And corruption is quite on par with Indonesia. Some Thai friends we met over an embassy function said that that particular expert has always been a limelight seeker. Best that the opposition do something better - bring in a Japanese expert but do it to seek the truth and not over any form of politival vendetta. We are horrified that there were persons carrying the picture of the deceased with a red cloth wrapped over the head and chanting anti government statements when the deceased's remains were carried out from the grave for the second post mortem. It was a solemn ceremony - why is the opposition politicising it? The truth is still out there and we wonder, if the truth indeed has nothing to do with the ruling government, will the opposition really accept the truth? We doubt it. The opposition is no more the credible opposition that we have came to know since we fist came here 15 years ago.... while the ruling government indeed has been showing signs, working signs that it is working very hard to be the people's government. The opposition needs new fresh faces which are not race chauvinist, not dynasties in practise, not religiously extreme and certaintly no unnatural lifestyle backgrounds too!

Submitted by Anonymous on Saturday, February 20th, 2010.
MR/MDM you have the rare beautiful sense of observations need more of you in this beautiful country truth always prevail

Submitted by orangkampung on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Dr. Pornthip said there was a 20% possibility that Teoh was killed. Looking the other way round, she also said that that there was an 80% possibility that Teoh was not killed by someone. But some smart Malaysians would rather go for 20% rather than the 80%. Now you know why the owner of Genting Casino is damn rich.

Submitted by Anak Seri Guling on Saturday, February 20th, 2010.
Let us conduct a censor in another country. A middle east country will be good. Which pathologist is more reliable? I am not a pathologist, but there is one question which I would like to ask Dr. Shahidan. What is a eniric hispathoyuren ? Can't answer go back to basic year in medical school. And I wonder how many A's you got for your STPM ? if you don't have 5 A's shame on you to gain entry as a medical student. No standard.

Submitted by Yeo Chin Kiong on Saturday, February 20th, 2010.
You post a question where Dr Shahidan cant answer back - very unfair & childish..Knowledge-experience - wise do not be label by how many A's one should have. Are you are a pathologist?

Submitted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
Yes i have a PHD in Biological Sciences.

Submitted by Pak Sago on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
a man won't jump down few floors for no reason, unless he's insane or unless he's being pushed. To jump down on a government building is somewhat unexplainable, we got a specialist from Thailand to come over to Malaysia to help out on the forensic (and I think she did an amazing job), she still gets complain from 2 MACC officers for so called "spilling" the beans out early? what are we living for? I don't know from the political scene, someone lost a life, and to those that have done it, you can run, but you can't hide when forensic will tell the truth. there will be karma. enjoy while you can.

Submitted by Eugene Williams on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
How interesting that this so called Thailand Forensic Specialist is also being condemed in her own country because she approved the use of the bogus GT 2000 bomb detector for the Thai Army usage. Now that UK has imposed the export of the bogus GT 2000 bomb detector, she is left to eat her humble pie...so tragic. Go do some research and you will find the she is more of a rock-star than a real pathologist.

Submitted by nstboy on Friday, February 26th, 2010.
truth or untruth , we have to stick to 1malaysia. Malaysia Boleh.

Submitted by Anonymous on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
I swear that pigs do fly!!!!

Submitted by Batman on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
These days don't trust anyone including yourself.. Just put your trust machines and computers.. They don't make mistakes or tell lies under oath like humans And if thet do they also give another warning abot their condition...

Submitted by FedUp1 on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
Our Made-in-Malaysia pathologist is an instant expert.

Submitted by nstman on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
If anyone who has "govt" in his job title cannot be trusted, what about anyone with connection to DAP? Theresa Kok (claim of China woman being harassed but later found to be a local woman - no apology given, and now Lim Guan Eng denial about cancellation of Maulidur Rasul procession only for a copy of the latter cancelling the procession to be produced and again no apology .... can DAP be trusted too?

Submitted by hitman on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
hitman, you have Malaysia boleh spirit. Even if you do not support DAP, what has it got to do with TBH and the truth? Theresa Kok on the China woman being taken pics at in the lock-up, does it matter if she is a local, your sister, or black? the point is, this incident happened! Think before you whack, areu big WWF fan?

Submitted by colourblind on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
dap only talking cock. so what do you expect.

Submitted by mx on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
I have a burning curiousity to know the reason for the inquest to be postponed to 1 March. Does anyone know?

Submitted by Melissa Tan on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
Anyone with a govt in front like govt doctor cannot be trusted. It is that simple.

Submitted by Anonymous on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
...so you do not trust DRpornthip too? he is appointed by the PR government? shall we have tomdickharry inquest? that is LYNCHING!! LYNCHING IS MURDER

Submitted by orangkampung on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
This is a typical spoilt person who had gladly received treatment from gov doctors for a mere rm1 or free!

Submitted by mz on Sunday, February 21st, 2010.
I take offence to that statement. Government doctors do not have anything to gain by being partial to any party. They work long hours under very strenous conditions, and believe me, if they do not have the Rakyat's well being at heart, they would have left for the much more lucrative private sector eons ago. Don't get so paranoid and don't be so judgemental. This statement that "government doctors cannot be trusted" is most unbecoming and biased. Just because the Pathologist's findings do not concur with your perceptions does not necessarily mean that they are wrong. There are other pathologists present during this autopsy and he cannot lie about his findings. Have an open mind and let's see how the case develops. Others have yet to testify. I believe that the truth will prevail.

Submitted by Kamal on Friday, February 19th, 2010.
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